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I am big fan of the show, and wanted to give you a virtual ::High five:: on a job well done.
I love all the episodes so far, but wanted to make a suggestion, that hopefully we can hear soon.
Myself along with a lot of my riding buddies, ride track bikes, and would like to see if you guys can have some input on that form of cycling in some aspect or another.
I am really starting to take my cycling to the next level and slowly learning training, ie, nutrition, racing, sprints, etc. I gather alot from your all’s episodes, but maybe you guys can put some time in on Track Cycling, learning speed, sprinting, how to become better, etc.
Either way great job, and all of us from Austin, TX dig the show.
It’s always good to hear from Austin, Texas….man I really miss living there at times. What a fantastic city.
Anyway, thanks for your input. We try not to sway from road cycling, but we could definitely do a show related to what you wrote and would be something you can use for your track cycling.
I enjoy the podcast very much and I would like to know your thoughts.
My question is regarding the wearing of “team jerseys” at races. Is there etiquette that should be observed? I can see wearing of LBS jerseys but say I am a fan of Team Sky. Would it be in bad form to wear a Sky jersey at a race? I am no elite athlete but just wanted to get your thoughts.
On the team Jerseys. If you are doing sanctioned races USA cycling and the like. There are strict rules on Jerseys. You can only wear a jersey if you are sponsored by the vendors on the shirt. You should check the rulebook for exact info. Your example of using a sky jersey would be prohibited. On the otherhand if you are doing riding events like centuries and the like, you can do what you want. Many riders think it is not “cool” to wear “team” or “world Champ”unless you are on that team. But I say wear what you like unless rules say otherwise.
On the topic of group rides
Let me say I have been back on the bike for two years , I was never a group fan when I was in shape when I got back on the bike this time I was at 330lbs I’m down to 198 I have found my fellow group riders to be the biggest reason for my lost weight . It’s the encouragement I received and the support, the sharing of info while out on my rides . I was lucky to find a group of riders who made it a point to not let me get discouraged . Show me how to be a better rider and have the patients to let me come up through the group I was even give a cool nick name ( yo -yo ) I would like to see more group riders take on the roll of mentor and coach I think in the end both people become better riders. Maybe you guys can do a show on this aspect of group riding. I will throw out the first tip as new rider joining the group you need to check the ego if some one like Chris in my case wants to share his knoll age you should be willing just listen and try to apply what is being taught if it works for you great if not try the next tip . So I hope this gets the ball rolling great show I have finally found a real use for my I pad keep it up guys
Hi William, or should I say Yo-Yo?
Thanks for your message and we’re happy to hear that you found such a great group to ride with. I think that is fantastic and a good idea for a show. Thanks also for the tip.
Saying that you found a real use for your ipad is a huge complement….thank you.
Hi Darryl, Rob, and Victor,
I’ve been listening to your show for over a year now via iTunes. I’m almost caught up to present time. I ride a hybrid bike today on a 10-mile circuit on weekday mornings. Even though I love my current bike, I want to move to a more performance bike. One thing that gets me is the rolled handlebar. I’m 56 years old and don’t want to be hunched over for my ride.
I went to a local bike shop last weekend to look at performance fitness bikes. The shop guys pushed me hard toward carbon fiber frames. I remember the show on buying a road bike, and I believe you guys said carbon would not withstand a lot of wear and tear. Or, at least, that it was easy to damage through normal use. I mentioned that and the shop guys went crazy telling me how durable carbon fiber is.
Can you clarify or help me understand why, or why not, a carbon fiber frame is good for me? This bike will only be used on road or bike lane surfaces.
Thanks, and I really enjoy your show!
Carbon is durable if you are just riding the bike under normal conditions. But it can be easily damaged in a crash or other mishaps. More so than other materials. Dont worry too much about the material just get the best bike you can afford. Just because a bike is carbon does not necessarily mean it will be lighter or ride better than another material. If you are spending below 1500 usd you will probably get a better bike overall if its made of aluminum or steel. Hope this helps
Thanks, Victor. Very helpful. I’m not going to venture into carbon now. I appreciate the quick response!
Hey guys. Just wanted to pass on cudos to you. I’m loving the podcasts and getting some really good information from them. I’ve made two purchases for my cycling in the last year, both on your recommendations. The first was the Sole inserts and socks. WOW! Talk about a great purchase! The shoe podcast made all the difference in the world. I never realized how much difference a shoe insert would make. The seconds was the Sufferfest.com videos. Made a big difference in the indoor workouts. I had a chance to get out with the folks I usually ride with for the first time this season. Great ride and I was able to kick some butt as we rode. Keep the podcasts coming. I’m learning a lot and now I’m addicted.
Hi Dean, thanks for writing in. It’s great to hear that our podcasts are helping you become a better cyclist. That is our number one reason for doing the shows and we love getting feedback like this.
Been doing more and more riding on busy roads and would like to try mirrors for my road bike but after reading a number of reviews, doesn’t seem to be a good one out there that doesn’t move or fall off. Have you guys ever found one you think is good. I’ve tried the ones that attach to sunglasses and helmets but seem to be too distracting . In any event I know if there is anywhere to get good advice it’s right here. Thanks for all your wisdom and advice!
Thanks for the q. Many people use them and I have heard that many like the “third eye brand”. I personally dont use though.
I love the show. I drive a truck and take my bike with me and ride whenever and wherever I can find the time. On my time at home I have taken up buying bike parts on eBay and have been assembling them when I get everything together. I just finished a Fondriest Aluminum road bike with Campagnolo Centaur parts and found that it is the best riding bike I have built so far. I usually build mountain bikes and sell them to friends. Is there a market for this and would others like to have custom built bikes?
That is awesome. I am sure you could find friends and others to buy those bikes. There is a good market for decent used road bikes under 1k. Thanks for your support
I just recently discovered your podcast and think it’s great. I’ve already learned many useful tips and useful concepts.
My reason for writing is to alert you to a “technical” problem I seem to be having with the mp3 files that I download and then attempt to play on my car radio. All other podcasts that I have downloaded to play on this radio seem to work just fine except the Cycling 360 mp3 files. I began looking into why this might be and noticed that your mp3 files download as “MS-J Stereo” files as opposed to regular mp3 files. I’m not a computer expert so I don’t know why this is, but I thought if I’m having this problem: others might also . . . just wanted to let you know.
Keep up the good work and I’ll continue to listen even if the “file download route” is not working for me.
I do like the content of your show even though it seems to me more geared to the beginner cyclist. I regularly do large group rides and there always are 3 sprint finishes to a rest stop. Would love to hear more about racing strategy to try to improve my finish (even though it isn’t technically a race).
The only negative comment I have is that one of you seems to be constantly sniffing throughout the podcasts. It seems to be Darryl. It is extremely distracting. My suggestion would be to turn off the mic when you do this (if you must!).
Otherwise a great show. Keep it up.
Will will put it on the list. I like the idea of a show on tactics for non race group rides.
On the comment on sniffing. Yes it is Darryl, we have worked on that and I think the latest shows a better. We will do our best
I’m new to cycling and am absolutely loving your show.
Something that I’m struggling with is correct position and posture when riding out of the saddle – it feels so unnatural, I’m locking my arms and I’m just not getting far enough forward.
Whilst I’m getting better as my balance and confidence improves, I’d really like a show on how, and when, to ride out of the saddle.
The other show that I think would be great is on balance. I know you’ve been through it on the core strength episode, but I think it’s a big enough topic that you could do more.
Anyway, listening to you guys is really great. It is actually making me a better cyclist. Thanks!
Great idea for a show. This is a great topic for advanced riders too. We will put them on the list.
Quick tip is that you should stay back when out of the saddle. Most riders move too far forward.
Thanks for the awesome job, can’t stop listening to your show and advertise to my friends =) I want to suggest a topic for one of your next episodes, it’s all about endurance/ultra-endurance events, I am talking about rides like “The Death Ride”, “Mt Shasta Challange”, “Terrible Two”, “Climb to Kaiser” (thеse ones are popular in California) type of rides, they are normally 200k-200mi long, with 10000-16000ft of evelvation. How to prepare yourself, what impact on your health and cycling performance this events could have, should you stick with one of that kind per year or you can go and do all of them, why would you want to do it and so on, and so on. Since I feel like there is a huge community of people asking these questions.
We did a show a while back on Ultra tris. I think you might find that interesting. We will put your idea on our list as I think its a good one. We might bring in a special guest too.
Discovered your podcast from a mention in Zite.com in March. Downloaded all the episodes for my spring break trip to Hawaii and have been listening ever since. Thank you for making the podcast and providing great tips for all levels of cyclist.
One question…Darryl, you said you lived in Canada at one time. You sound like you have a local Hawaiian accent (not a Canadian one) on the podcast. How did you come to live in Granada?
Richmond BC Canada
It’s great to hear from you and glad you found us through Zite.com. I actually lived in Canada for a long time. I am from there and basically lived there up until 10 years ago. Our family did spend almost 3 years there between 2007 and 2010 as well. But I’m not much for the Canadian climate and also like the idea of living an adventurous life so we’ve moved around a lot. We lived in the Caribbean for 3 years back in early 2000 and after leaving we always thought about going back. I’m here in Grenada and own a bicycle café. You need to come visit sometime. Check out our site at http://www.mochaspoke.com.
Wanted to let you know that I really enjoy your podcasts! I’m a novice rider with significant family commitments (which could explain why I have way more miles logged on my rollers than on the road…so sad), but I love listening to you guys (and gal, sometimes!). I appreciate your clear and usable way of talking cycling without sounding like a bunch of pro racers who came out of the womb with a 125 cadence! I find your shows fun, accessible, and informative. I could ask you guys a million questions, but I’ll just keep plowing through the podcasts for now. Keep up the good work!
P.S. Im asking for a Sufferfest video for Fathers day, so maybe that and some photos of my pain cave will be coming out shortly!
Great to hear from you! Your comments mean a lot to us. Would love to see a pic of the pain cave.
Couldn’t agree more David. These guys are great and have really helped me learn more and get inspired to want to do better. By the way, I’m up to 10 Sufferfest videos on my way to 14. They make my indoor workouts feel less like tooth extractions and more like something productive.
I doubt this is a podcast worthy topic, but I’d love to hear from Coach Rob or the Guru on this question:
Q: As a recreational rider with very limited training time, what are some (3-4) basic metrics that I could track to monitor the positive effect (if any) that my training rides may be having for me? Or, put another way, what could I be measuring in order to see if my limited ride/training time is enough to make some improvement in my fitness level and performance?
Thought this was interesting. A study by Conrad Earnst, PhD showed a 3 kg reduction in body weight produced twice as much speed increase as a 3 kg reduction in bike weight.
I’ve listened to your all your podcasts, some more than once, and always come away with good ideas and tips–thanks!
One problem I’d like to hear you address is hand numbness. More than anything, it is the discomfort in my hands that limits how far I care to go. I’ve had a thorough bike fitting and recheck this season. I usually ride on the horizontal or hoods, rarely in the drop position. I try to keep my elbows relaxed, and wear a good pair of gloves. Usually it is my thumb, index and middle fingers that go to sleep at around 45 minutes and onward. Any ideas?
Will consider a quick tip on the subject. You may have some underlying problem that is causing trouble. That said it is your position. For whatever the reason; your position on the bike should accommodate your issue. I would re-visit. Let me know if I can help. I also do virtual bicycle fitting and problem solving.
Wow thats impressive all shows..
I have a recurring right neck-to-shoulder muscle pain everytime I go for long rides, I already went to phisiotherapy but still hurts, do you have any experience with that muscle??
Laurent, Sorry you are having trouble. Could be any number of things causing shoulder/neck discomfort. I Would be happy to help through a private consulting call.
How do you keep the sweat out of your eyes on hot hard rides?
I dont have this problem but have heard people say there is a device called a sweat guttr… I am sure you can find it on a google search
Power meters are $$$ and training using wattage is confusing. Recommended topic for future Podcast should address the subject of who really needs a power meter. Suggest a guest who is an experienced coach (like Rob).
Good topic. I know we touched on this in the past But could go further in depth. Will put it on the list. Thanks
First of all; love the show. The motivation episode is brilliant and the ‘How to ride a century’ is coming in handy as we speak.
I have a bit of a technical question. Basically I have a Specialized Allez with 3 rings on the front and at the minute my bike struggles to shift down to the smallest one when I’m trying to go up hill. I’m pretty poor at climbing (which is a whole different matter) but this is making it hard on the higher gradients. I’m having to do them in the middle ring (which isn’t a terrible thing strength wise) but it really affecting my rhythm.
Do you think this will be down to something about my bike? Or is it something I’m doing wrong? Someone mentioned that it won’t go in that gear when the chain tension is too high so I should be shifting into it a lot earlier but that doesn’t seem to work either)
It could be that it is not adjusted properly and or you are trying to shift under tension. I would have a pro check the shifting for you first and then work on the shifting technique. Will do a quick tip about how to shift on a hill
Wicked! Cheers Victor
I am new to the podcast/website and am enjoying it immensely. I commute 45 miles one way so I have lots of seat time to get caught up on previous shows. I have been mountain and road cycling for the last 25 years and have a maintenance tip that I have never seen in a magazine or heard on any podcast. I ride high end carbon fiber bikes and for the past five years or so, I perform a post ride ritual that I believe has helped the finishes on my bikes last longer than most. I keep a can of furniture polish on my work bench with a dedicated rag on top of it. After each ride my bikes normally have sweat, sticky sport drink and Gel splatter across them. I wet the rag with polish and wipe the entire frame clean. The polish is cheap and cuts down on the amount of full bike washes required which saves my bottom bracket, headset and wheel bearings. Have you heard of this practice in the past and do you see any problems that this practice could cause to my bikes finish?
Thats a good tip. Its ok to wipe the bike down in between washings but there is no substitute for rinsing the bike with fresh water. Even if you wipe the bike down well there is no way you will be able to wipe off the salt and road grit in tight places. I recommend rinsing the bike about once a month. If done correctly you will not harm the bearings.
Sorry, don’t use facebook but wanted to get a question out there. I regularly commute and road bike and occasionally ride mtb singletracks. I sweat like mad (unless it is Nov-Apr here in Minnesota). Are there any secrets to keeping your eyewear clean and dry either due to sweat and also rain during a ride? I use a decent pair Tifosi glasses (with the black/amber/clear interchangeable lens) and have the same problem with my wireframe eyeglasses.
There is a tip that I have. I will do it on an upcoming quick tip. Basically you use a product called “rain x” It works pretty well. Not perfect though
Everyone on the podcast,
Just recently got back into road cycling this year after an on and off hiatus. I came across your podcast 2 months ago and just love it! Can’t get enough of all the information you provide. You guys have motivated me to stick with biking and reminded me how much I missed it. Thank you all!!!
My question is, I have been doing all if my bike repairs except wheel truing and bearings. I have changed 2 of my road bikes into a hybrids and have done a lot of switching components. In the future I am also looking into building a road bike from the frame up. I would like a quality complete tool set rather then buying a tool here and there like I have been. Can you recommend a brand or set of quality tools. Park tools is what I have been working with but is there something out there better quality or you would recommend. Shimano/ Dura Ace/ SRAM are my choice of components.
Thank you for all your help and information,
Thanks for your kind words. It means a lot to us to hear comments like yours.
On the tools
1. I strongly suggest that you avoid purchasing a “kit”. You will probably end up not using many of the tools. Just purchase the tools that you need and buy top quality tools.
2. As for brands. Parks shop level tools are ok as are Pedros. Also Shimano has some very good and $$ tools that I use. Campy makes amazing quality tools too.
Hope this helps
Thank you Victor (The Guru), I will take your words of wisdom and go in that direction.
Looking forward to future podcasts!
Darryl and Victor, keep up the great job sharing all your knowledge and experiences with everyone!
Everyday is a fabulous day for biking,
Question about replacing my shoes, I have had my current pair of shoes about 4 years, I replace the cleats as needed, I ride between 2 to 4 times per week. How long does a shoe keep its integrity, and as a general rule when should shoes be replaced.
Love the podcast. Got a question for ya.
I’ve just started racing this year, and have been doing well, however, my work doesn’t allow me to get many miles in on the bike at all. I stay at a motel a lot, and all I have available to me is a treadmill and elliptical. I do pretty hard intervals on the elliptical, since its the best way I can mimic my watts and heart rate on the bike. Is , and can this help with my cycling performance? Thanks. And keep up the good work fellas
Quick question about hill climbing. Kind of a silly question maybe,but when struggling up a hill how can I tell if it is because I am simply out of breath or I dont have enough energy in my legs to do it?
If I know that then I can at least get my fuelling right or work on my cardio!
Thurstan from merry old England
I’m so glad I found your show. I got into road cycling a few months ago (too may knee injuries means I can’t run anymore).
I’m currently riding an older Specialized Sequoia. It’s in great shape, but seems a bit heavy compared to the bikes I’ve been eyeing at my local bike store. My wife says I need to keep my bike for two years to make sure I really stick with cycling. Are there any issues with staying in the middle chain ring? I usually stay in the middle chain ring unless I hit some larger hills, but I don’t want to cause any unusual wear and tear.
I’m looking forward to taking Victor’s Bicycle Maintenance course once work calms down in a couple weeks.
Thanks for all you guys do,
Victor here. The bike you have will do fine. As long as it fits properly. I would rather see you spend the extra money on getting your professional to evaluate your position rather than new equipment.
On the chairing question; Go back and listen to the cadence show again, you should be using your gears to adjust maintain your effort based on terrain. Very rarely would one stay in the same gear. Use the gears constantly….
The class is really good. You have 6 months to work through the material.
Thanks for listening to the show
I just discovered this podcast couple of weeks back and have been going through the entire back catalog since then
Thaks for sharing awesome information during each episode.
one quick question and then comment regarding biking apps
During the “Bicycle fit” show the guru said that he has a list of some professional that he can share on request, hence can you recommend some fitters in the Alexandria, VA region – thanks in advance.
Regarding cycling apps – the one I have been using Cyclemeter for a while and seems to be a good app, just wanted to thrrow this one out there.
Thanks for the comments and the Cyclemeter app.
I dont personally know anyone right in your area, though I am sure you can find someone.
Thanks for your response Victor
Keep up the good work!
I listen to your show regularly and was listening to your show from 16/03/2012 on on-line resources for cyclists and was particularly interested when you were talking about team type 2 and how its possible to display glycogen levels through a pump to their bike computer. As a type 1 diabetic this intrigued me. I was hoping you might have more info on this or could put me in contact with someone that does. Thanks guys and great show!!
I was listening to one of your shows (March16,2012 , I think) and you were talking about “team type 2” who is able to get their glycogen levels on their bike computer through the Wi-fi on their pump. As a type one diabetic this intrigues me and I was hoping you could give me more info or be able to put me in contact with someone that could. Great show btw.
I very much enjoyed Sage as part of the show. You should consider that addition if she were willing. She is one of the very few people I hear with both a credible Yoga and endurance perspective. If it’s not too much of an imposition, I’d love to get her recommendation on books or other resources that would help me deal with the balancing act of training for triathlons and an Ashtanga Yoga practice. I’ve slotted practice into my routine in a way that basically substitutes for weight training but have no idea whether that makes sense or how my practice limits or reinforces any of the triathlon disciplines. Thanks for the show; it’s one of the best.
Really enjoy the show and all the different facets to cycling you cover.
Anyway, I was just wondering if you could possibly shed some light in a message or on the podcast about the warm up/down and stretches before and after a bike race and training.
I took up cycling back in Feb in an attempt to loose weight and start living life healthier for myself and my young family.
6 months on and ive lost 40 pounds , im riding 550 miles a month, and have moved from my hybrid to a carbon “roadie” and am loving the cycling lifestyle.
I live in a small country town in South Australia, so your podcasts have been my main source of information for a while now and have found them extreemly helpful to me acheiving my cycling goals.
I have even started riding with a small group on weekends due to the information and confidence you guys passed on.
well done and keep up the good work
Wow, when i wrote this i did’nt know it would rate a mention on the podcast,
I got the shock of my life on Friday when i finally got to listening to the “spreading the cycling message” pod, while doing my regular morning 6am ride.
Im glad you guys liked my story, thanks again and keep the info coming.
Thank you for the podcasts guys–I really enjoy them.
Among many things, you have convinced me that I need a good professional bike fit (especially since I am in the process of getting a new bike). Any recommendations of good bike fitters in the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan area would be much appreciated.
Thanks again and keep up the great work,
I’m really enjoying your podcasts! As a soon-to-be newbie, I just listened to “Getting Started in Road Cycling,” which made me want to backtrack to “How to shop for a New Road Bike.” Is there any way to access that episode?
Thank you for all of the great information!
We are having a technical problem with the site right now. Check back in a few days. You can also listen via itunes.
Amy our problem is fixed you can access now
How can I hear the show dated April 15 on How to buy a new road bike? In iTunes it only goes back to August.
Just started listening to your show this weekend. It is awesome.
We are having technical issue. Check back in a few days or get the show via itunes
You should be able to access now
Specifically I meant before Aug of 2011. The itunes store only shows the last 100 shows.
I too was looking for older episodes, and did not find them in iTunes. I did locate them in the Archive section of this site. Right click on the download and saved the linked file to my music folder. Import into iTunes, change type of file to Podcast and BAM! there it was.
Hope that helps.
Just want to plug my 90 year old uncle Bert Blevens who is on a ride from Louisville, KY to Siesta Key, Florida. A trip of 1000 miles. He did it ten years ago on his road bike. Doing it this go around on his recumbent.
Want to see more? http://www.wdrb.com/story/23283471/90-year-old-wwii-louisville-veteran-cycling-930-miles-to-florida.
Love your podcast. I’m a ‘new’ back into it after 30 years rider. Great info.
Thanks for sharing. That is awesome 90yo and still riding!
Hi Guys, just wanted to drop a note to say I appreciate all the good information you are sending out! I have been listening to your podcasts in the car while i’m traveling and I gotta tell ya…the Canadian accent cracks me up all the time!
Two things I learned form some of your podcasts: 1) when riding stay in the now. Since I heard that I started making mental note on how many times I phased out instead of paying attention to the road. I realized that since I ride after work, if I’m not careful, I’m running the day through my mind and I’ll suddenly realize I can’t remember how I got to where I was; amazing how the body can keep the bike going when the brain went back to the office.
Secondly…I take my helmet in the shower to wash it…I won’t “wear” it in the shower, but I’ll put it on just to make sure I don’t forget it. I also take my sunglasses in and sometimes my gloves.
The podcast about crashing brought back memories for me. A few years ago, I got hit by car. Adrenaline is a wonderful thing. I was lucky that an Off Duty EMT was there and saw what happened, she helped me get home and then told me to go the ER to get checked out. Washing out the road rash is painful, if the listeners never have to go through that, they are lucky. The day after getting hit was no picnic either. Not only was the body sore, but the road rash hurt as well with movement. The ER gave me some triple antibiotic ointment to put on and the non-stick gauze like you mention…painkillers were prescribed, but I never took them. They didn’t seem to work or i didn’t have the patience to wait form them to work. Took 5 months before the bike and I were able to get back on the road. But the psychological scars are still there. I cannot ride through a stop signed intersection (I know you shouldn’t ever) without cringing because I don’t think the cars are gonna stop; school zones are the worst. Any tips to get through the psychological issues?
Keep the rubber side down…and keep up the good info.
Thanks for sharing. Your words really mean a lot to Darryl and I. We will do another psycho show and bring in a guest expert.
It sounds like you are doing all the right things (well except for bringing the helmet in the shower).
Stay in the moment
Just wanted to drop you a quick note to let you know how much I appreciate the podcast. I know it’s got a be a lot of effort but I assure you there many of us out here who really enjoy the advice and topics you are covering.
On behalf of all listeners let me extend a BIG THANKS to the entire team!
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the comment. You are very welcome.
Victor and Darryl
I just discovered your show and I’m really enjoying it. I used to be able to download the older shows directly from the page about that episode. I don’t seem to be able to do that anymore. Did something change?
Yes keep check we are trying to fix that
It’s working now. Thanks!
I started listening to your podcasts recently and absolutely love them!
I was wondering what advice you guys have for getting back on the bike after a wreck. I started riding consistently last summer just as a way to stay fit when Im home from college in the summer (I live in the middle of no where and there are no gyms) and absolutely fell in love with it. I love the physical activity as well as the stress relief it offers. I took my bike back to college with me, but not long after I got there I had a wreck and broke my elbow into four pieces. I had surgery and it is well on its way to being completely healed, but it will still be a few months before I can start riding a lot again. When that time comes, how would you suggest I start back up? I really cannot wait until I’m able to ride again, but I’m also mildly terrified. I really want to be able to enjoy it again.
Thanks so much!
Thanks so much for doing the podcasts! I’ve been listening for about 8 months after getting into cycling 2 years ago.
My family and I just moved from the states to Spain a few months ago. I wonder if you guys could give some advice either here or on the show about moving from one place to another and how best to transplant my cycling habits. I know, Darryl, that you may have some great firsthand insights and tips.
Great question….I am sort of an expert on this. Congratulations on your move and I’m excited to hear more about what you’re doing over here and how the riding is. I just recorded a quickcast on this and it will be up on the site very soon.
I listen most of your podcast let me tell you that you make a very good job. I’m 56 year old ( and canadian french) I have very hard time to accept and gage the capacity that do on my bike. Recuperation is harder, I think it’s too fast because what I could do 2 year ago today it’s a challenge. I know that I’m getting but what should be the speed that of that. I pedal 12 month a year at least 5 hour a week ( minimum).
It would be fun if you could do a podcast on it, recovery, what is the decline as a cyclist, etc…
Great podcast. I really enjoyed the show on tires and tubes. I just wish I had heard the podcast 3 days earlier, before I bought a new tire and tube.
Thanks for the information
I totally agree!
Just wanted to let you guys know how much I enjoy listening to your podcast every month. I was an avid cyclist in my late 20’s/early 30’s. For some reason (life gets in the way sometimes), I got away from it. Now at the age of 50 I have become a reaffirmed cyclist. I’m amazed at the technology available and the information that’s out there now. Your podcast has been most instrumental in getting me back up to speed and motivated. Thanks Darryl and Victor!
Thanks for the beautiful comments, Rosanna. We love hearing stuff like this and it feels great. I’m so glad you’ve come back to cycling.
Fellas I found your podcast about 2 weeks ago through an iTunes cycling podcast browse. First show I heard was the tires which I listened to twice and have since chosen ep titles that sounded right for now. Just heard the interview with your cross country sustainability guest. Amazing. All really great and inspiring to me as a newly returning cyclist. I rode in my teens, worked up to a century, later bad accident just round corner from home which left me gunshy for years. I stayed away till recent years when my kids were growing up. Now they are in their teens and I’m returning this coming fall to a century right for a cause for JDRF. My daughter is type 1 diabetic and we have supported JDRF for several years. This year I decided to join the Ride series and will be riding in Tucson on Nov 22 in the Ride to Cure Diabetes. Thanks for your great podcast! a new fan. Jim
Thanks so much and keep us posted on your progress.
Hey Victor and Darryl … First off, you guys rock! Second, I commute about 3 hours a day to work and want to thank you for carpooling with me!! Lol. Truth is, over the last year I have lost 80 lbs. reaching my goal of 155 through diet and exercising. I am 56, have yo-yo’ed before and this time have been determined to add fitness workouts that I enjoy and change my lifestyle for the better. Not to get bored I am now up to 10 different workout routines for both strength and cardio. This is all new to me. So, I have added cycling since last November by getting two nice road bikes for my wife and I. We now both LOVE cycling and have reached a high of 28 miles, so far. We are still new-be’s, but I have been reading books, magazines, talking with friends and recently had the idea of looking for cycling podcasts. I searched iTunes and listened to a couple of others when I found you all. After listening to the latest one I was hooked and immediately downloaded ALL of them!! Then I went to the oldest and have listened to 2 to 3 a day. I love all the topics and have enjoyed you both, Coach Rob and your periodic guests. So my disappointment is I just realized that the weekly 40+ min podcast became monthly. My concern is how will I handle my Cycling 360 withdrawals after my marathon listening? Actually, this is meant as a big compliment! I will likely go back and listen to them all over again. Looks like Coach Rob is gone and wondering why. Anyway, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for teaching us all about the world of cycling! Your commitment and passion is quite evident. PLEASE keep up the great work!
Thanks so much Tony. Let us know of any questions you have about cycling. Keep up the awesome riding!
The passion both of you have for cycling shines through on your podcasts, but since I’m from Philadelphia, and we even Boo Santa Claus, I’ll provide you with some suggestive comments, below:
1. Dive right into the topic(s) of your show, which I’ll bet is what most of your listeners want, as opposed to discussing your personal lives and/or funny anecdotal stories. Many broadcasters and show hosts, including TV, radio and online, make this “mistake” (in my estimation, a mistake). We want Meat, not veggies.
2. Try to schedule at least one expert guest per show, to bring in a different perspective and fresh voice. Your female nutritionist friend (I forget her name) is wonderfully educational. Also, years ago, I was able to get multiple tennis guests for an online tennis show (Max Mirnyi, Cliff Drysdale, Pat Cash and more) just by emailing their agents or them through their web sites.
You’d be surprised how accessible many famous, high profile individuals are, and how gracious, especially in “minor” sports like tennis and cycling. I think Lance Armstrong would be a wonderful guest, despite everything, and he might enjoy your interest. Also, a Skype interview with many of the European and American cyclists might be possible – Nibali, Valverde, the Manx Missile, Christian Van de Velde, Hincapie, Leipheimer all seem approachable. Also, retired cyclists from long ago might love the attention – LeMond, Hamilton, Landis, or the best climber of em all, Riccardo Ricco (good luck).
3. How about a show on pushing through the pain, especially on climbs, as discussed by Tyler Hamilton in his book. I just used this mental approach last weekend and did a great personal time on Las Flores Canyon in nearby Malibu. Every time my fatigue and my suffering increased, I just increased my effort and pedal speed (without shifting to an easier gear).
Guests, guests, guests, trust me……..
Richie C., in Santa Monica, by way of PHL, SFO & HON.
Those are some awesome suggestions….thanks. We really appreciate the honesty and feel these are all great ideas for the show. We’ll start putting as many of these into action as we can….let us know how we’re doing again in the future.
Though I can appreciate Richie’s point of view, with respect I personally enjoy the human touch you guys bring to the podcast. I like the humor as well. Plus, if I wanted a sterile education I’d take a class. I enjoy learning through your conversation of thoughts and ideas. Oh, and though cycling currents events are nice and what the pros are up to may interesting, there are several podcasts that provide that. What I love about Cycle 360 is it’s all about the bike and caters to beginners as well as advanced cyclists. I know … everyone’s got an opinion. 🙂 Keep up the great work guys!
Love the podcast guys. Started listening this spring and it quickly has become my favorite. Love all the advise and sensible talk about cycling. Your last podcast, ‘Cycling while in a physical or mental rut’, hit home and was very timely for me on many levels. Thanks for sharing your advise and experiences on this topic. As awesome as the sport of cycling is, it is very easy to continuously push too hard and take things a little too serious. More is not always better. I know this, but it’s good to be reminded. I felt like you had me in mind when you made this episode. Thank you.
Keep up the great work!
Question:I have a Bianchi Sempre model The bottle cage on the down tube had the uppermost “grommet” loosened(vibrating)it came right out and the bottom “grommet” just spun around while trying to remove it I’ve had the bike one year with know problems The Bianchi Rep claims that I over tightened the screw Noway I made it snug The cage on the seat tube is fine I’ve been to a number of “PRO-SHOPS” and nobody will touch it because of the frame warranty Can you give me any suggestions?
I doubt it is because you overtightened. I would try and have the shop or bike company fix it. The good news is that you could probably do it yourself. The “grommet” is actually something called a “rivnut” Installing and tightening is done with a special tool or some ingenuity. Here is a tutorial I found with a quick google search. http://blog.artscyclery.com/road/ask-a-mechanic-loose-water-bottle-bosses-curing-brake-squeal-on-a-mavic-exalith-rims/ hope this helps
If a person (athlete) has been training for going on 3 years and this includes having a coach and hasn’t experienced any improvement at all, is it possibly to say the person is not genetically built for the sport and can’t improve and should give up and stick to being a recreational rider?
I know that be be discouraging. Could it be something in your goals that are not congruent with your riding? We can all improve no matter our genetic gifts. I have a long time friend that started cycling and had zero gifts and skills on the bike. Things that came easy to me, he would struggle with. But his love of cycling has trumped his lack of gifts and skill and after years of riding and racing he is at a high level in the sport. Dont give up, just re-evaluate your reasons for riding. Also if you have a coach they should be able to measure your progress in fitness, but fitness does not necessarily translate into race/ride performance. Thats skill, tactics, and even riding technique. Hope this helps. Best Victor…
About time you replaced the intro for your quick tips isn’t it? You’re still saying “The 3 of us”. It’s been the 2 of you now for ages. Apart from that great show 🙂
All the best from New Zealand 🙂
What Ho! Chaps!
Brief message from across the pond.
After a hiatus of some 20 years from cycling I’ve rediscovered my love of all thing velocipede and your programme has been invaluable in bringing me up to date with new technology and concepts.
I didn’t think you could improve on the cotter pin…………….progress eh?
Keep it up!
Is there an overwhelming difference or benefit in athletes who train with a coach in person compared to those who use a coach that they work with through email and phone conversations which live in different location from each other? Basically, is the quality of training just as good or is in person, local, one on one train better and online coaching a joke?
Both are good. Most coaches do one or the other. It really depends on the type of coaching. If the coach is just giving workouts then online is how its done. If you are working on group riding for example then there is no substitute for an in-person coach. I do quite a bit of online bicycle fitting and technique coaching and iin many cases I think online can be just as good or better than inperson. Best Victor
Hey guys I recently rode a century in Maryland with about 9,000 feet of climbing and struggled. I had ridden it the previous year and did fine but this year because of some road and bridge closings there were a lot more hills. The end result was I had to walk on some and even considered hopping on the SAG wagon at about 80 miles. Because of this I am trying to change my drive train to help with all the hills. I currently have a standard 53/39 crank and a 11-25 cassette. I have a triple crank that I could install or I was thinking of possibly getting a 50/34 compact crank and a 12/27 cassette. I am normally not befuddled by decisions like this but I am having a hard time figuring out what option would be best for the hills in Southeast Pennsylvania where I live. Any input you have would be helpful. Thanks for the show and all the information about how to become a better cyclist. It has definitely helped me. Keep up the good work.
Oh man sounds like you had a good learning day. Compact vs Triple…Both are good the triple gives you a few more gears in the middle with the same range of gearing. If compact, I would go with 50-34 and a 12 -32 ish cassette. depends on how fit and strong you are…Will do another quicp tip on this topic soon
Recently listened to one of your shows and heard you mention something about riding jerseys being few and far between. I am about to clean my closet out and I know I have, at last count 8-10 jerseys I could do without. (Sizes are L to XL American)
I’d like to know if there is a way we can work something out and I can get these jerseys down to you for resale, if at all possible.
Just asking why Cycling 360 has been in hibernation since mid October. Hope the podcasters are well and there are no serious problems.
What happened to Cycling360? Are one of my favorite cycling podcasts gone?
Just a quick note to say how much I enjoy listening to your podcasts and how good it was to get the latest episode downloaded and into my ears after your brief hiatus.
I first started listening to your shows last year during a train journey I took from North Wales, where I am from, to London, where I live. The journey took five hours instead of the normal two due to engineering works on the track and so I frantically searched for some podcasts to occupy myself during the trip. After downloading as many of your podcasts as I could before boarding the train I spent the entire five hour journey listening exclusively to your show and the time just flew by! I enjoyed them so much I could have happily stayed on that train for another five hours and ever since I have become an avid fan of yours.
Your efforts in putting the shows together are greatly appreciated, not only for the great tips and info you give but also for the pure entertainment of listening to them. I know you mentioned you questioned if you wanted to carry on with the podcasts so I just wanted you to know there would be at least one very upset person if they were to cease, and I’m sure I wouldn’t be the only one.
Congratulations of the audio quality improvement by the way. It does make a difference.
Thanks Carey. We really appriciate it.
discovered your show a few months ago and really enjoying the topics you tackle. They are really excellent, helpful and appreciated.
If you ever run out of ideas to discuss, maybe you could look at the best reaction a cyclist could have to aggressive driver behaviour (eg. verbal abuse, cutting off, etc.).
As you know, cycling puts you in a bit of a zone (whether commuting or other road riding) and I feel like if I react angrily to what is essentially a pointless situation and can escalate out of all proprtion, I wreck all the good things I have accumulated up to that point (concentration, mindfulness, general feel-good, etc.).
Cheers guys and keep up the good work.
Hey Darrell, Hey Victor,
I got into cycling about a year ago and I’m kind of addicted now. I started following you guys about 2 month ago and I’m in the best way to complete the podcast century. Let me tell you what a great inspiration you guys are for my training and I really think that listening to you guys makes people better cyclists. So, congrats on your success and keep doing what you do. You guys are great.
I have a question on which you guys might be able to help me.
I’m trying to decide between 2 carbon wheels to upgrade my bike. I’m looking at one option with a 40mm rim and another one with 52mm rim. I live in NYC and I ride a lot in areas with sometimes strong crosswinds along the waterfront. I also do like 4-5 centuries / gran fondos per year. For the rest my riding is pretty balanced between hills and flats. Which one would you recommend me to get?
Thanks so much for your help. Look forward to the next episode.
Hey thanks for listening!
On the carbon rims. Go and listen to the show on aero wheels… It really depends on a lot of factors. Your weight, skill level, type of riding, etc.
Generally narrower is better, except for special situations.
I really have to thank you guys for your show.
For the last several years I’ve been experiencing lower back pain on and off the bike, but especially while climbing. I’ve seen a physical therapist and do my exercises religiously. They have helped, but I didn’t experience a pain-free ride until this week after listening to several of your shows on lower back pain and pedaling technique.
I used to ride at a high cadence — people even remarked on it — but somehow in the last few years I had gotten into the habit of grinding away at a low cadence for every ride. After listening to your shows I went out specifically to do high cadence work (~100rpm). After about 30 minutes my brain and my legs suddenly remembered what it was like 5-6 years ago. The higher cadence isn’t hard, I just had to remember how it felt.
Today I put it to a real test on a ride with a ton of climbing including some gradients around 15%. This is where my back normally would kill me, but by focusing on the highest possible cadence and on pulling back with my heels (nice description, Victor), back pain was minimal and disappeared about as soon as I crested the climb.
I’m home now and my back feels great. All the way home I was singing your praises: Thanks guys! I’m off to iTunes to give you a review… 🙂
This summer, I rode my first ever century. Although my training plan was poor, I finished strong and felt great.
Next summer, I want to do my first ever double (Seattle to Portland in 14 hours) In order to accomplish this, I HAVE to train much smarter and make every mile count. Additionally, there is probably a need alternate weeks with easier weeks (simplifying your training podcast) especially when my long training rides are in excess of 7 hours.
My time is limited to two shorter rides and one long ride. Per week. What resources do you recommend that I study/use?
I have finally finished a project that I have been working on the last few years that is near to my heart. I traveled the country photographing ghost bikes (white bikes places as memorials for cyclist fatalities) and have self published a book called: Don’t Forget Me; Ghost Bikes-A Photographic Memorial by Genea Barnes. I would appreciate if you took a few minutes to check it out and if you like it, share it with those you think might appreciate it. This project has taken a long time, and I really wanted to share the final product with all those that I have reached out to along the way. Thank you.
The book is divided into 2 sections. The first, the journal of my travels while searching Ghost Bikes, including small photographs that document who the bike was for, and where it was located. The next section includes images that were created from the photographs that I took. The book is hard cover, 148 pages, and measures 10.25in x 10.25in x 0.75in (thick).
I have been listening for about a year now and I wanted to thank you for your podcast. It’s the only cycling cast I’ve found that I can enjoy at my level; I’ve been cycling for 3 1/2 years, just completed my 6th century and average just over 15 mph overall.
I wanted to thank for your podcast on balance. On a 3-mile downhill this weekend, about 72 miles into a century ride, I found myself on a fairly rough stretch of narrow road with heavy two-way traffic and a significant cross wind.
And then, at 35 mph, my front wheel started to shimmy.
After listening to your podcast, I can say for certain that my panic to the situation caused the issue and had I heard your advice earlier, I would have lowered my center of gravity and relaxed my death grip a bit. And I would have been fine.
Instead I had to slow down to under 30, while my riding buddy flew down the hill, easily breaking 40 and smugly waiting for me at the rest stop at the end of the descent.
Anyway, love your podcast. Keep them coming!
Please don’t hate me but……… I’m starting to drift away.
I started listening to your podcast about 3 years ago when I got back on the bike (my back story is very special to me but probably very common, I basically ride about 5000 miles each year – mainly to raise money for charity).
Anyway, I don’t know if I’m missing something but I feel your podcasts are getting just a little bit too techie!
I’m moving towards just listening to the “quick tips”.
Catch you on the main show
Thanks for writing in. We really do appreciate the feedback. We always thought the the Quick tips were the too techie part. It would really help if you could tell us what shows you like and what we possibly haven’t talked about that you would like to hear.
Hi, guys. Big fan of the show… I just listened to your last podcast, and I can’t say I agree with Victor’s recommendation that fluid trainers are “the best”. Since moving to the northeast from the southwest, I’ve been largely stuck indoors. I’ve gone from a fan, to a fluid, to an electronic, which I purchased last fall. If you can say trainer riding is ever “fun”, electronic trainers are really the most fun. If you’re doing programmed workouts, like TrainerRoad or Zwift, an electronic trainer will adjust the resistance so you actually can simulate going up and down hills… pretty much the exact terrain. It doesn’t do cobbles, but you can’t have everything.
I prefer to ride outdoors, and last year rode in temps as low as 10F, but I’m not sure it’s always smart to ride when it’s that cold, and as you said, getting dressed takes a long time, and temperature adjustment (mine, not the environment) can be tough since I don’t have a team car following me around to take my gear. Of course, I grew up in Canada, so I’m a true flahute. Darryl needs to look at Velominati Rule #5…
Thanks for your comment, John. Hahahahaha, I just refreshed myself on what the Velominati Rule #5 is. Yeah, no chance of me hardening up.
I’m a relatively new listener ( about three months ) and I’d like to weigh in on todays show. Specifically, I’d like to address comments made in reference to use of strobes on bike during daylight hours. I don’t know what state you’re in, but if you ride in a state like Maryland that is a “contributory negligence” state, of you don’t have the minimum standard of strobes, reflectors, bright colors, etc…, and are involved in a collision, you will be determined to be negligent and therefore responsible for the crash. There are reams of case law to support this here. You will be totally without any legal recourse to pursue damage claims or recover medical bills, and could also ( like I was when I was hit by a car ) be held liable for damages sustained by the car driver. Strobes and other safety gear might be unsightly and cumbersome, but in these parts, it’s an absolute necessity. Given the inherent bias of cops, courts and prosecutors in favor of motor vehicles, it’s extremely unwise to do anything other than exceed the standards.
Keep up the good work and get out there and ride.
This comment was in reference to the post here http://cycling360media.com/common-fears-associated-with-road-cycling/
Thanks for the fantastic comment. You made a really important point that there may be legal issues for using lights and reflectors etc. I do feel that cyclists need to be good citizens and protect ourselves as well as other when riding. Hopefully some day our legal system will recognize that many riders are doing their best to abide by the law and they should not be punished like you were for getting git by a car no matter what you were wearing. Thanks Victor…..
I’ve been listening to your podcasts for a couple years now, and only recently decided to send in a comment. So, please know that I’m a fan and will continue to listen and support. That said, I was taken aback by one of Victor’s comments in your last podcast re: Cycling Fears. I was surprised to hear him give the impression that one should abstain from using tail lights since they tend to be annoying to group riders and drivers. Upon hearing this comment, I searched for any research or supporting opinions on the web and came up empty. i.e. The conventional wisdom, including cycling accident safety statistics, strongly urge the use of tail lights and anything else that makes the rider more visible. I suppose that one could rely on the sheer number of riders in a group to make one more visible, but if you’re riding solo or even with only a couple partners, I would rather be noticed by virtue of an annoying light than increase the risk of me joining those accident stats.
Again, I’m a fan, so please don’t misunderstand my commentary. I was mostly surprised. Perhaps, I misunderstood his intended message.
Thanks so much for the comment.
We should use lights, reflectors, etc where appropriate. But I have noticed in recent years that many riders are using them in a pack on a bright and sunny day. This can in some cases be disturbing to other riders. That said it may help from us getting squished by a car.
Another listener pointed out that in some states if you dont have lights, etc, you could be at fault for getting hit! Go figure.
Anyway thanks for listening and stay safe.
I’m afraid I have to agree with the gentlemen above. If you’re riding with a group, you’re much more visible than when you’re riding by yourself, so I forego the LED’s. But when I’m riding alone, particularly since where I live is subject to lots of shadow, and daylight/dusk low sun glare, I’m lit up like Earl Scheib’s. Forty percent of bicycle fatalities occur because the cyclist was run down from behind, and another 11% occurred at intersections. Over 42% of these accidents were caused by “inattentive drivers”, so anything I can do to improve my chances of getting their attention is worthwhile (http://bikeleague.org/content/new-report-every-bicyclist-counts). I’ve actually had drivers comment and give me compliments about my front “mini-flasher”… it MAKES them see me. Personally, I’ve quite often been unable to see cyclists on the road, and I’m looking for them.
They may look geeky (btw, I’ve ridden 30 years without them) but I’m sure they’ve helped on numerous occasions. Furthermore, I think drivers give me a bit more respect because the can see me earlier. They ARE annoying in groups, so don’t use them there!
I enjoy your podcasts, and I’ve used a lot of your advice, but I think you made a mistake and did a disservice to your listeners with your advice to forego lights or flashers, simply because you find them “annoying”.
Hi Darryl and Victor,
I’m a huge fan of Cycling360 and LovingTheBike. Thank you so much for all of the hard work you do!
I believe that through your advice and tips, I have become a stronger, more confident cyclist and a more joyful human being. Cycling has changed my life and you’ve been helpful guides along the way.
In a recent podcast, Victor mentioned that when done the right way, cycling with music can be a great thing. I’m hoping that you can elaborate more on how to go about that, while staying safe and still being able to experience your surroundings.
Again, my thanks to you both for an amazing show, and for making yourselves so accessible. You have my appreciation and gratitude.
Hey Jessica, Darryl here…..wow, so nice to read your words. I’m so happy to know you’re a fan of Cycling 360 and Loving the Bike. We actually have a show about riding with music coming out. I’m a firm believer in riding with music as long as it’s done right. I’ve been riding with music for years and wouldn’t have it any other way.
Hi guys, love the show, I am a new listener. I was wondering if you could help me with a bike question. I currently ride a road bike and that I bought at a store and was fitted for. I love my road bike but am interested in getting a flat bar road bike for commutes less than 25 miles , sometimes I just like to sit more upright and go for a more casual ride, but I still want speed. I kind of don’t want to spend another $600 plus for a bike. I am interested in getting a Craigslist bike such as a Trek Fx. However, I think some of the asking prices are by some delusional people wanting exactly what they paid or more so. Occasionally, I will come across a really good deal, but pass on it because the frame is usually 1 size larger than I normally use. The question is: would it be okay for me to get a bike 1 size bigger if the price is really good, and I just lower the seat to my correct height and get a shorter stem? I know the reach will be 1 inch or more out than is comfortable for me.
In therory it might be ok. Especially if you want to sit more upright and you are just riding short distances. I would rather you just get a bike that fits well. If you have a bike that is too long then you could compensate with a super short stem but it is not ideal…. Hope this helps
I have no Apple products. Do you supply your Podcasts as MP3s anywhere?
You can use stitcher and google play
Hello lovely people at 360 Cycling and readers,
I’m on a global search for cycling enthusiasts in order to find those who want to join an international network of power meter testers. I’ll keep this short and to the point and hopefully I’ll manage to seduce some of you.
I’m representing Team ZWATT (you can google us or go to teamzwatt.com) which is an initiative started by a small Danish company in order to crowd-source power meter data in order to improve the technology behind its product. We have nearly 700 enthusiasts signed up (mostly from Denmark, the U.S.A and the U.K) and we’re hoping to reach 1.000 soon. If there are any among you who would like to know more or even sign-up feel free to visit our website.
I hope I gave you an interesting read.
Have a great day.
Listened last night to the Iron Cowboy episode and found myself understanding what he was talking about cause I was through something quite similar last summer on a bike trip I was on. I’m looking at a very similar bike trip this year only more aggressive to try to get an even better understanding of what I saw happen last year. I would love to compare notes about the experience with him. Do you have/could you provide his contact information?
Made my comment on the episode page but realized it may not be read so posting here also. Just listened to the motivation episode with the part on old helmets. The suggestion to replace your helmet every five years even without any kind of impact is one that gets repeated often. But there’s no data out there to support the suggestion, everyone just repeats it. Here’s a link to one of the few studies, actually the only one I could find, on the subject of old helmets. http://www.meaforensic.com/helmet-testing-research . I replace my helmet ~6 years just because new helmets are nice :>). But the “need” is still an interesting topic.
This is a big thank you to you both, and fyi for everyone else out there. Change your insoles in your shoes now, not now but right now!
(now I’m planning on spending small fortune tomorrow replacing the ones in my skiboots, runners, golf shoes, court shoes)
I just listened to your podcast about how to balance life and riding a bike. What I do to sneak in a ride while being with my family is to ride to the event. A family dinner, I leave early and ride to the family member’s house. We’re headed to a museum, a church event, into Boston. I wake up early and ride there or ride home. Works very well to get both in.
Ben that’s a great tip!
Thanks for sharing
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